Subject and object

PH: Because we know that the subject of reason rejects contradiction, we know one parameter of the modern subject.

Me: What is the definition of subject? I honestly do not know the meaning of subject in this context.

— you are not wanting to paint yourself into a corner, is what is happening.  You know exactly what I mean by the subject.  Again, if you need another authority, check the multitude of philosophers, or psychologists, or even the dictionary.  But if you need a definition: a subject is a subject of discourse.  

I honestly don’t know which definition you are using.

Here are the noun definitions (including philosophical definitions) from the Oxford Dictionary. I have put in bold the definitions which could well fit into your statement.

  1. A matter, scene, etc to be discussed, described, represented, dealt with, etc
  2. A person, circumstance, etc, giving rise to specified feeling, action, etc
  3. Department or field of study
  4. Grammar. a noun or it’s equivalent about which sentence is predicated and with which the verb agrees
  5. Any person except a monarch living under a monarchy or any form of government
  6. Any person owing obedience to another
  7. Philosophy. Are thinking or feeling entity; the conscious mind; the ego, especially as opposed to anything external to the mind
  8. The central substance or core of a thing as opposed to its attributes
  9. Music. The theme of a fugue or sonata; a leading phrase or motif
  10. a person of specified mental or physical tendencies
  11. the part of a proposition about which a statement is made
  12. (as in subject for dissection) a dead body

As you can see six of the twelve definitions here can be meant. It is especially problematic when definitions 7 and 10 have complete opposite meanings for philosophy and psychology (areas which I must almost taken into consideration when looking at polysemy in your discourse). I did not include grammar subject in bold either, since you are not a language teacher.

And here are the definitions for object.

  1. A material thing that can be seen or touched
  2. A person or thing to which action was feeling is directed
  3. a thing sought or aimed at; a purpose
  4. Grammar. A noun or its equivalent governed by an active transitive verb or by a preposition
  5. Philosophy. a thing external to the thinking mind or subject
  6. Derogatory. A person or thing of especially pathetic or ridiculous appearance
  7. Computering. A package of information and a description of its manipulation

And the Oxford Dictionary does not include the second grammatical definition either.

Interesting that definition 1 (of normal usage) is different to the philosophical one (definition 5). Also, since the name OOO is (loosely) derived from object-oriented programming languages I cannot discount this usage (definition 7) by you either.

Do you see where my problem stems from?

You keep on assuming I am being uncooperative (obstinate is the word you keep on using). I do not have all of your definitions in my head as you keep on assuming (I have not even gotten to modern yet). I can only assume from this characteristic that you are also (I am including myself in here) fallible to other assumptions as well, and that I have to be weary of what they may be. It is the way I do my philosophy.

11 thoughts on “Subject and object

  1. And, if I was to satisfy your need to reduce it back into some unitive universe that you can tear apart again through continually asking what definitions are, then I wouldn’t be true to the two routes. I don’t think you remembering the unilateral duality definition I gave you in a reply I don’t know if you days ago.

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  2. Two routes. You are only thinking one dimensionally. You are only thinking a long one route. You were thinking that everything has to reduce to one route. Two routes. Two routes to knowledge or up or knowledge. Two orientations up on things. But you are exhibiting is one orientation. You are thinking a long one unit route as if everything needs to reduce to a unitive order of things

    two routes.

    Whatever definition you know how I love that is consistent with the word. It works with what I’m talking about and what I’m trying to describe because I’m not using a special definition. I’m using the well-known common definition that we can find anywhere in any source . That is why I say you already know what I’m talking about by any term, because if you didn’t, we wouldn’t even be able to use it for you to have any context whatsoever to even bring up what definition I’m using.

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  3. And the reason why any definition of any term that you asked me what definition I’m using for, works for what I’m talking about, is because I’m not using any special definition. I’m using the definition that we all already know and can reference anywhere.

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  4. Every question that you have of my meaning of any term. You can go to any source published in the meaning that they have will be consistent with what I intend for my meeting and what I’m talking about.

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  5. Goto the dictionary. I looked at the first 5 definitions of subject. Every one of them works for the meaning of what I’m saying.
    Most likely. If my answer is: you already know what I mean, then you can goto any source and whatever definition it gives you, it works with that meaning of what I’m saying.

    Try that. Find one. And plug it in. If you don’t think it works. Then post it. And I will attempt to show you how indeed it does work

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  6. university.
    Similar:
    branch of knowledge
    branch of study
    course of study
    course
    discipline
    field
    area
    specialism
    speciality
    specialty
    adjective

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